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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #165 on: November 17, 2017, 12:38:19 PM »

Something as this.

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« Reply #166 on: November 17, 2017, 05:04:18 PM »

Hi Massimo,
nice picture of the "parade" livery. It really looks like solid grey. Also the plane at the photo from VDNCH looks solid grey. And yes, it is glossy, it looks clean, repainted and/or polished. Therefore I think that there were no exhaust stains at the fuselage. Only metal panel looks dirty - I think only burned and coroded but agin, no exaust stains.

Plus note, on the starboard side the upper line of the victory starlets is not parallel with the canopy, while on the portside it is perfectly parallel.
It looks sililarly also here:


And La-7 looks also solid grey at these photos.

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« Reply #167 on: November 17, 2017, 06:23:15 PM »

Hi Misos,
this could be in line with other units painting their plane with solid grey uppersurfaces. It can also be seen as a demonstration that many of those planes were grey and not green.
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« Reply #168 on: November 17, 2017, 08:07:38 PM »

Hi Misos,
note that the victory starlets on this side are aligned to the ground of the exposure hall. this suggests that they were added in this place, well after the war.
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« Reply #169 on: November 17, 2017, 08:45:46 PM »

...The shape of the digits suggests Z.381, but the plane preserved in Monino is built in Z.21.

Hi Massimo,

maybe I missed something, where did you find the info about tha plane in Monino was built in Z.21?

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« Reply #170 on: November 17, 2017, 09:25:23 PM »

Hi Flavio,
it is from http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/la-7/la-7colors/27kozhedub/27kozhedub.htm:

"...plane 27, represented as it was probably painted some days after its arrival to 176 giap, with standard red nose and white triangle on the tail.
The blue outline around the number was a factory standard.

The serial of the plane (as now preserved in the Monino museum) is 45210127, where:
45 is for La-7
21 is for Zavod 21 at Gorky (now Nizhny Novgorod)
01 is the series (very early)
27 is the unit within the serie, the same of the bort number on the fuselage."

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« Reply #171 on: November 18, 2017, 01:11:16 AM »

Thank you 66misos,

however what I mean is: several authors like Stankov and Bykov provided the serial number of Kozhedub's La-7 "27" as Nr.45210127, but was someone able to match this serial number with that of the plane displayed in Monino? To say better, the serial number of the plane in Monino has serial number Nr.45210127?

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« Reply #172 on: November 18, 2017, 11:49:59 AM »

Kozhedub's La-7 at Monino

https://ru-aviation.livejournal.com/1509789.html

Lots of good pics including close ups but unfortunately the serial number is neither given in the description nor shown on any of the pics.
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« Reply #173 on: November 18, 2017, 04:38:39 PM »

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Kozhedub's La-7 at Monino

https://ru-aviation.livejournal.com/1509789.html

Lots of good pics including close ups but unfortunately the serial number is neither given in the description nor shown on any of the pics.

Good link.
Note how badly disaligned is the nose. It was not so in the photos of the '50s, but I think to see it so after the repainting of 1967. I wonder if they have damaged it during some transport.

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« Reply #174 on: July 20, 2018, 04:58:12 PM »

Hi,
this should be Kozhedub's La-7, at least according to the article at https://cont.ws/@dingonord/261429:



Note white spinner and red triangle on the side of the engine cowling (if it is there) does not have white outline.

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« Reply #175 on: July 23, 2018, 10:24:28 PM »

Hi Misos,
how strange... no red triangle on the nose at all, nor white area on the tail on the plane on the background.
Is it kmown where and when this photo was taken?
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