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Author Topic: Yaks with wavy camouflage  (Read 3384 times)
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2018, 10:13:16 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2018, 08:27:58 PM »

Hi Misos,
I've asked to Orlov (via Maciej) about the use of greys in 1942 by Z.115.
He answered that he can't say, he hasn't studied the thing but it can't be excluded the use of colors different from AMT-4/6, but shades could be different from those of 1943, AMT-11/12.
Personally I continue to think that they were mix of AMT-7 and black, and AMT-11 and 12 were copied from these mix.
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2018, 09:49:50 PM »

Hi all,
thank you for comments, I am glad you like them.
Massimo, interesting info, thanks.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2019, 04:02:23 PM »

Hi,
while searching and collecting data for Yaks profiles I have found several pictures of interesting wavy camouflage.
Some authors interpret them as black-green, others interpret them as already grey-grey.

Colors on this Yak-9 are completly different from green MiG-3 and Il-2 in the background:


Another one, Yak-7B late, too bright for black-green, even on the bright snowy environment:



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   66misos


Perhasps too late, but I have to note : the grey camo was intoduced by the same order with the outlined stars (sept. 1943). The photo of winter 42/43. So there are 2 reasons for the green/black camo.
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2019, 06:17:10 PM »

Hi,
the order to paint All the fighters in grey-grey was of summer 1943, but planes as this one, elaborated in Z.115, can be seen since late 1942.
These planes are identical, in contrast and pattern, to the Yak-9 that is described as the prototype of grey-grey fighters by Orlov in spring 1943 (perhaps it was the very same plane); being identical, all them have to be painted in greys.
Zavod 115 made both maintenance of planes built from different factories, both elaborations into different prototypes.  The lack of green pigments was felt in 1942/43, so the factory elaborated a new experimental camouflage since late 1942, official tests comparing grey-grey and green-black-brown camouflages were made in spring 1943, then the order to change the standard camouflage was issued in the summer.
After that date, the pattern of Z.115 was replaced nearly ever with the new NKAP one even on prototypes; only few photos of planes built later show this pattern again.
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Massimo
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