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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2018, 05:06:23 PM »

Hi,
beautiful Ju-88. The profile looks to be missing of air brakes.

I think to see German camouflage on the Me-109. Probably it was polished to make spped tests.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2018, 07:01:32 PM »

http://warspot.ru/9843-vami-interesuetsya-lichno-tovarisch-stalin

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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2018, 07:21:34 PM »


Interesting read The Russians were using it in a reconnaissance role during the war.
For some reason google wont translate the link but will if I copy and paste the text about the JU-88.

"The Great Patriotic War, which began on June 22, 1941, demanded from the Red Army in general and its Air Force in particular the prompt elimination of quickly revealed shortcomings. Lack of time and resources led at times to improvisations, the appearance of which in a more relaxed atmosphere would hardly be possible. Thus, the attempt to form a reconnaissance squadron of Spanish pilots on German aircraft in the summer-autumn of 1941 is of undoubted interest.

    "... And yet the next day the result of the meeting with the authorities was not slow to tell: Major Khomiakov called us. This pilot fought in Spain, in Madrid. Valentin Ivanovich talks warmly and sincerely with us.

    "Comrade Major, what task will we carry out?"

    - Everything has its time. The only thing I can say is that you are personally interested in Comrade Stalin. - This he reports almost in a whisper. "I'm telling you - it's all a secret ..."

So the Spanish fighter pilot Francisco Meronho described in the book of his memoirs "And again in battle," published in 1977, events that took place in Moscow in late July 1941. This story began on June 22, 1941, when the German invasion of the USSR forced Spanish immigrants, former pilots of the Republican Air Force, to start looking for an opportunity to continue the fight against the fascists.
Junkers Ju 88A (factory number is unknown), broken September 13, 1941 on take off from the airfield Aramil (20 km southeast of Sverdlovsk) by pilot Manuel Velazquez Leon. "You are personally interested in Comrade Stalin ..." | Military-Historical Portal Warspot.ru Junkers Ju 88A (factory number is unknown), broken September 13, 1941 on take off from the airfield Aramil (20 km southeast of Sverdlovsk) by pilot Manuel Velazquez Leon.

Initially, the Spanish volunteers were enlisted in the special NKVD brigade, where they were preparing for partisan actions in the rear of the Wehrmacht. However, good pilots, most of whom have combat experience, were quickly remembered. The fact is that the Red Army had huge problems with reconnaissance information: units capable of conducting long-range reconnaissance, until June 22, 1941, the Air Force of the Red Army did not exist in principle, so after the war began, the need for them increased many times.

In addition, in the Soviet Union, there were traditionally other power structures interested in intelligence information. Apparently, it is for this reason that the NKVD leadership also decided to form a separate reconnaissance unit, for the manning of which Spanish pilots were used.
Junkers Ju 88A (factory number is unknown), broken September 13, 1941 on take off from the airfield Aramil (20 km southeast of Sverdlovsk) by pilot Manuel Velazquez Leon. "You are personally interested in Comrade Stalin ..." | Military-Historical Portal Warspot.ru Junkers Ju 88A (factory number is unknown), broken September 13, 1941 on take off from the airfield Aramil (20 km southeast of Sverdlovsk) by pilot Manuel Velazquez Leon.

Unfortunately, to find out who exactly became the author of the idea and what specific tasks IV. Stalin intended to entrust the Spaniards, until it is not possible. Most likely, it was an ordinary aerial reconnaissance in the German rear with the aim of obtaining intelligence information regardless of the Air Force SC. In the summer of 1941, the Red Army repeatedly missed the Wehrmacht's crushing blows, while Soviet intelligence, including aviation, did not work well. Probably, it was supposed that, using German planes, it would be possible to be much more effective and, most importantly, safer to carry out reconnaissance flights in the interests of the top leadership of the USSR directly.

As a material part, German aircraft, purchased by the Soviet Union from Germany for acquaintance in 1940, were chosen. In total, 36 combat and training aircraft were purchased, including five Bf 109E, five Bf 110C, two Do 215 and two Ju 88, which were perfectly suited for reconnaissance.

According to the memories of the then included in the group of Spanish fighter pilots Francisco Meronjo and Antonio Arias, it included experienced veterans of the civil war in Spain Ladislao Duarte, Juan Lario, Manuel Leon, Fernando Blanco, Jose Pascual, Vincente Beltran and others. In addition to them, the unit included young Spanish pilots who graduated from the Kirovabad Flight School in 1939, who did not manage to return to their homeland before the defeat of the Republicans and remained in the USSR.
Reconstruction of the appearance of the Junkers Ju 88A from previous shots. Wide white stripes on the fuselage and wing planes could be an element of the rapid identification of the planes of the "Spanish" group, as well as the distinctive feature of the training aircrafts (artist Igor Zlobin), which was customary in the Air Force of the prewar period. "You are personally interested in Comrade Stalin ..." | Military-Historical Portal Warspot.ru Reconstruction of the appearance of the Junkers Ju 88A from previous shots. Wide white bands on the fuselage and wing planes could be an element of rapid identification"
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2018, 03:18:35 AM »

Wide white stripes were used to identify military aircraft used in aircraft schools, and apparently everywhere, and were applied to the wings and fuselage.
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