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Author Topic: Il-2s of 1942  (Read 15766 times)
barneybolac
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« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2014, 08:16:04 AM »

Hi,



Il-2 red 55 of N.G.Stepanyan, 57 PShAP. VVS KBF, Baltic/Leningrad area, date unknown (presumably 1942).

The photo shows the central part of the fuselage, the red 55 with white outline and the star with white outline that suggests a plane built by Z.18. The underlying camouflage is unrecognizable, but the plane appears oversprayed with faint blotches of white washable paint, partially extended over the markings.
On the drawing, the presence of the intake filter, aiming lines and VV-1 is merely hypothetical.
Thanks to Vitaliy Timoshenko for the informations and the image.

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Massimo

Fantastic photo of #55 & a very nice profile as well. I hope one day to see the film of the presentation of his IL-2 that he is most famous for.
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« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2014, 03:19:36 PM »

Hi,
his supposed grey and red plane, you mean? That one is a mystery, despite the many photos available.
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barneybolac
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« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2014, 01:25:26 AM »

Hi,
his supposed grey and red plane, you mean? That one is a mystery, despite the many photos available.
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Massimo

That is the one.
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« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2014, 04:54:11 AM »

I've renounced to draw it for now. On one side, I had just to copy the drawing of Montex. with few improvements on the wing leading edge. On the other side, I would have guessed that a part of the livery should be dark blue with grey or green canopy frames, but it is just a guess and won't have justified a conflict with their drawing.
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« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2014, 09:25:27 PM »

Hi all,
a new one


from this photo.

http://80.91.34.200/spWebApp/preview.action?search.offset=97&search.rid=2317169&search.rbase=SP_TEMP&search.previewNumResults=2385&search.rbase=SP_TEMP&search.tabId=editorial&search.searchString=&search.showNumResults=101&search.searchId=949307488&search.businessArea=creative&search.advanced.dateCreated=1942

Plane of Z.18, photographed in mid 1942. No data known.

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« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2015, 08:56:04 AM »


Hi, another one.





Il-2 White 22 of unknown unit after a belly landing. presumably in 1942.

The spinner looks black with a red tip.

White 22's fuselage is covered by dust and mud because of its belly landing; the tail shows clearly the typical painting of zavod 1, while the few that can be seen of the camouflage under the mud splashes allows only a partial reconstruction of it.

The VV-1 aiming device and three white aiming lines are recognizable on the nose, so the plane was probably produced in mid 1942.

The short barrels protruding from the wings suggest ShVAK guns instead of VYa-23, in line with what is expected from planes of Z.1 in 1942.

The plane shows two interesting characteristics: both the front of the landing gear nacelles are painted with a light color, possibly light blue; besides there is a light part on the right stabilizer, that looks a repair made with thin metal sheet or adhesive tape over a war damage.

Some photos show the plane with large parts of its fabric skinning of the fuselage removed, probably in correspondance of the fuselage red stars; this looks a confirmation of their presence even if they can't be seen in the photos due to the mud splashes.

Thanks to Vitaliy Timoshenko for his help.



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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2015, 04:24:13 PM »

Hi all,
another one.





First photo: pilot N.N.Kirov of 174 ShAP poses close to plane White 73 in May 1942.

The plane, built in early 1942 in Z.18, has the stiffeners to strenghten the rear fuselage.

Second photo: pilot G.M.Mylnikov poses close to the same plane. This detail allows to see the thin (red?) outline around the white number. The outline around the star seems silver. The stiffeners seem painted before being installed on the plane.

It's likely that this plane had a colored (red?) front of the spinner as other planes of the same unit.

Images: spb.photoarchive.ru via V.Timoshenko



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Massimo
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« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2015, 05:33:55 AM »

Very nice profiles as usual, Massimo!

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Jason
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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2015, 02:16:11 AM »

Hi,



Il-2 red 55 of N.G.Stepanyan, 57 PShAP. VVS KBF, Baltic/Leningrad area, date unknown (presumably 1942).

The photo shows the central part of the fuselage, the red 55 with white outline and the star with white outline that suggests a plane built by Z.18. The underlying camouflage is unrecognizable, but the plane appears oversprayed with faint blotches of white washable paint, partially extended over the markings.
On the drawing, the presence of the intake filter, aiming lines and VV-1 is merely hypothetical.
Thanks to Vitaliy Timoshenko for the informations and the image.

Regards
Massimo

Fantastic photo of #55 & a very nice profile as well. I hope one day to see the film of the presentation of his IL-2 that he is most famous for.

Doubt it is the same aircraft based off of the position of the number?




http://tsushima.su/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2124&p=222
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« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2015, 06:53:46 AM »

Hi,
yes, the position of the number isn't the same with respect to the star.  Besides the white outline suggests a plane of Z.18, and the far plane seems to be of Z.1 on the base of the camo.
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Massimo
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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2018, 03:32:23 PM »

Didn't know where to put it. Single seater modified to two seater december 1941
Group of flyers of 18.ShAP of 2nd MABr that recived medals december 1941


Another modified Il-2 (in foreground) of 57.ShAP VVS KBF on airfield 1942


from
http://forums.airbase.ru/2017/11/t32321_46--tolko-otechestvennaya-morskaya-aviatsiya.html
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