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Author Topic: Searching for VVS Photos  (Read 115258 times)
John Thompson
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« on: August 11, 2007, 07:24:04 PM »

One of my favourite sites, which has apparently disappeared, was avia-n-aero. It had upwards of 4000 photo images of Russian aircraft on it, a lot of them Operation Barbarossa shots, taken from ebay.de. I thought I'd give this a try myself, and you can too!

(1) Go to the German e-bay site: http://www.ebay.de/
(2) Choose the category "Sammeln & Seltenes" in the drop-down menu of the right-hand field of the "Finden" bar; I used "foto" and "Russ" as key words in the left field of the bar. Click on "Finden". Someone who actually speaks German (I don't!) might be able to refine this process better than I can, with suggestions of where else to search.
(3) Scroll through the search results and look for descriptions including familiar names, like "MiG-3", then open that page.
(4) Be sure to click on the low-res thumbnail to get the high-res image.
(5) Right-click the high-resolution image and save it to your "My Pictures" folder

We can all become amateur VVS photo researchers, digging in the goldmine of ebay.de! Wink Today I found a Yak-9T image and three MiG-3 images which I saved, plus several others (I-153, SB, TB-3, Po-2, etc.) which I didn't.

If anyone has suggestions on how to improve this process, or finds anything really amazing, please let the rest of us know!

John
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 07:20:57 AM »

Hi John, Smiley
thank you for the suggestion. Ebay.de is a real mine.
When you find an interesting image, could you post the link here, please?
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2007, 07:34:00 AM »

Hi, Smiley here are some images

http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Foto-russ-Flugzeug-Jak-9-5-20_W0QQitemZ280140706889QQihZ018QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
This looks Yugoslav. A Yak-1 on the background.
http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Foto-russ-Flugzeug-Jak-9-Cockpit-5-26_W0QQitemZ280141305850QQihZ018QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Foto-russ-Flugzeug-MiG-3-5-25_W0QQitemZ280141305913QQihZ018QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 06:39:21 PM »

 Cheesy Thanks, Massimo! I just see red X's in your second post, though!

My instructions were unnecessarily complicated - you don't have to go to "Sammeln & Seltenes", you can just use the default option "Alle Kategorien" in the right-hand field of the "Finden" bar. This is easier than what I described before, and searches all of the listings, even though 99% of the photos seem to be in the "Sammeln & Seltenes" subcategory, from what I've seen so far.

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2007, 07:15:42 PM »

Arrgh - another revision - if you enter "foto" and "Flugzeug" in the left field of the "Finden" bar, you get *all* the photos of aircraft. This means you have about eight times as many to sort through, but some of the photos are not identified as "Russ". Here's an interesting collection of I-153s that I found this way:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-zerstoertes-Flugzeug-crashed-airplane-BB332_W0QQitemZ290149243469QQihZ019QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

(I'm sure there are those among us who may also be interested in German aircraft - this search will get you tons of Luftwaffe images. Gee, what a surprise...  Wink)

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2007, 09:52:25 PM »

Hi John, Smiley
about crosses, it was my error. I linked the pages as they were images. Now I've modified the link and it functions.
About ebay: it seems that they insert forthemost small size images.
By the way, I've already seen those images of MiG-3, many of them are on my book too. I wonder if the owner is selling them, or if there is more than a print on the market.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2007, 10:46:22 PM »

 Smiley Thanks again, Massimo! The emblem under the cockpit ledge in the "Jak-9-cockpit" image is interesting - I wonder what, if anything, it means.

Regarding image size, I found that the image closer to the top of these pages seems to be in lower resolution than the slightly larger second image, farther down the page. The second image is the one to save, so that it can be enlarged with whatever software you have, in order to see details more clearly. The first image becomes quite broken up (or pixellated) if it is enlarged with image editing software.

I suspect there are numerous prints of these photos in circulation; as a regular contributor on Air Warfare Forum, you've probably seen this before, and as an author, you are probably an expert on the subject of copyrights, but the following discussion might be of interest:
http://www.airwarfareforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2780

(It must be obvious now why I don't finish any models...  Wink )

John
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2007, 07:59:06 AM »

Hi John,  Smiley
the discussion on Airwarfareforum is interesting. I didn't know it.
The copyright problem is somewhat strange where more than one print exists, or when the print passes on many hands. The definitive copyright should be of the owner of the negative.
However, when an image has already been published by many different sources, it can be considered of public domain.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2007, 01:30:23 AM »

Well, surprise surprise - it's back!  Cheesy
http://www.avia-n-aero.ru/photo.php

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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2007, 12:18:41 AM »

Russian bombers -
Il-4:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Flugzeug-72740_W0QQitemZ180149294820QQihZ008QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

SB:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeug-russischer-Bomber_W0QQitemZ220140205834QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2007, 04:53:51 AM »

A couple of I-153's:
http://cgi.ebay.de/019-Orig-Foto-Flugzeug-Russland-2-WK_W0QQitemZ170140473075QQihZ007QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

SB:
http://cgi.ebay.de/J9-Foto-russisches-Flugzeug-Beute-2-WK_W0QQitemZ270157869614QQihZ017QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I-16:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Foto-russ-Flugzeug-I-16-5-53_W0QQitemZ280145929253QQihZ018QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

La-5F - "White 85" - has white tip on fin and rudder. Needs a bit of manipulation to bring out the details - it's a rather poor photo:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeug-Russischer-Rata-Jaeger_W0QQitemZ300144571740QQihZ020QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2007, 06:31:27 PM »

La-7 "mit raketenmotor":
http://cgi.ebay.de/La-7-mit-Raketenmotor-Flugzeug-Foto_W0QQitemZ270159564773QQihZ017QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2007, 01:47:36 AM »

I-153 with unusual camouflage:
http://cgi.ebay.de/WW2-Foto-russ-Flugzeug-airplane-Naehmaschine-top-Tarnung_W0QQitemZ260163264806QQihZ016QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2007, 11:14:32 AM »

Nice image! Thank you for sharing it.
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2007, 01:14:41 AM »

Captured Yak-1b (not Me-109, as captioned) in German markings, with Russian inscription remaining on fuselage:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Flugzeug-ME-109-BF-Kennung-russische-Schrift-Tarn_W0QQitemZ130160119739QQihZ003QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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