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« Reply #510 on: June 08, 2017, 12:15:36 PM »

Hi,
really great!
This shows not only the camouflage of the Li-2, but shows La-5FN and La-7 of 4 GIAP KBF, confirming that the types had differently shaped white painting on the tail.
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Massimo

Do you have proof about 4 GIAP KBF ?
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« Reply #511 on: June 08, 2017, 03:33:18 PM »

Hi,
not a proof, but this is in line with what expected both on La-5FN and La-7 of this unit.
http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/la-7/la-7colors/10whitenose/10whitenose.htm
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« Reply #512 on: June 16, 2017, 07:40:21 AM »

Hi, some interesting photos

http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/img_1364857_1491147422_collage_lb_image_page6_15_1.jpg.html
This should be a Yak-1 of Lyla Litviak in winter camouflage. To tell the truth, the caption says that the mechanic is on the wing, but I see it on the ground.

http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/img_1364857_1491147422_collage_lb_image_page6_15_1.jpg.html
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zaika70/23537416/21247/21247_original.jpg
Here we see photos of crew of 117 giap. Behind them, on the low, one can recognize the nose and the tail of an interesting Yak fighter (Yak-1b?) with an eye and probably a sharkmouth and a nice regimental emblem on its tail. On another photo, the bort number is readable but I am not sure that it is the same plane.
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« Reply #513 on: June 16, 2017, 07:48:02 AM »

Hi,
and this one?

http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/img_1334189_1484657983_100727171041yak1sostrel.jpg.html

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Massimo
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« Reply #514 on: June 20, 2017, 08:55:23 AM »

Yak-9 with sharkmouth of Mazan.

http://goskatalog.ru/portal/#/collections?id=4973849
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« Reply #515 on: July 04, 2017, 09:01:43 AM »

Hi,
not a proof, but this is in line with what expected both on La-5FN and La-7 of this unit.
http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/la-7/la-7colors/10whitenose/10whitenose.htm
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Massimo

These La's can be of any guards regiment of 1st guards ftr division of KBF (3, 4, 10 giap). Or may be some other unknown unit.
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« Reply #516 on: July 04, 2017, 04:02:06 PM »

Hi,
perhaps they could be of another unit, but:
the tail of the La-5FN is just as those known of 4 giap kbf;
the tail of the La-7 is just as the only known photo of 4 giap kbf;
the number 70 and the visible characteristics of the camo are compatible with the known photos of the plane of Golubev.
It would be good to look for further informations, of course. I was told that some photos of his plane, still unpublished, do exist.
Of course, I hope that the next book of Milos Vestsik will give further informations.
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Massimo
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« Reply #517 on: September 14, 2017, 12:20:37 PM »

Hi,
I am impressed for this photo found on Scalemodels.ru



It shows a La-5 with a winter painting, where the light color has replaced green. They were discussing if the light color could be aluminium instead of white.

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Massimo
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« Reply #518 on: September 16, 2017, 09:43:46 PM »

Hi,
I am impressed for this photo found on Scalemodels.ru



It shows a La-5 with a winter painting, where the light color has replaced green. They were discussing if the light color could be aluminium instead of white.

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Massimo

It is unusual do you have the link on that forum?
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« Reply #519 on: September 16, 2017, 10:25:11 PM »

Here is it
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=954&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=880
The discussion is also about the possibility to distinguish white and silver on bw photos.
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« Reply #520 on: September 17, 2017, 03:06:31 PM »

Hi,
interesting photo and interesting discussion at scalemodels.ru.
Anyhow, IMHO this La-5 has thin, a bit translucent layer of the white over green. Instructions said that original camo had to be partially visible under the field-applied white winter camo.
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« Reply #521 on: September 17, 2017, 10:17:59 PM »

Hi Misos,
I think that it is traslucent white, that when overposed to green appears as a sort of light grey.  Looking at the shadowed part close to the numbers on the fuselage sides, I see that it goes into shadow as the white paint of the digits, while a metallic paint should easily show reflections on the parts in shadow.
I wonder if the lighter thin outlines of the white bands are real, or an effect of a strong compression of the image; JPG can make such artifacts where the darkness changes sharply. On the other hand, it can also be that the white bands have a thicker layer of paint along the outlines because they were at first contoured, then filled.
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Massimo
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