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John Thompson
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« Reply #120 on: March 05, 2008, 02:19:04 AM »

I-16 type 5:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Flugzeug-mit-Soldat-Beute-II-WK-100-Original-Foto_W0QQitemZ380002652059QQihZ025QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Here are some small collections; each of them includes one or more photos of the same Il-2:
http://cgi.ebay.de/019-2x-Orig-Foto-Flugzeug-Jaeger-2-WK_W0QQitemZ180221078513QQihZ008QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.de/020-2x-Orig-Foto-Flugzeug-Jaeger-2-WK_W0QQitemZ180221078545QQihZ008QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.de/021-3x-Orig-Foto-Flugzeug-Jaeger-2-WK_W0QQitemZ180221078578QQihZ008QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.de/025-4x-Orig-Foto-Flugzeug-Aircraft-2-WK_W0QQitemZ170199115207QQihZ007QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Su-2:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Foto-russ-Flugzeug-Bomber-Su-2-nb56_W0QQitemZ280205641351QQihZ018QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

I-153:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Foto-russ-Flugzeug-Jaeger-I-153-nb54_W0QQitemZ280205638754QQihZ018QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

UT-1:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Foto-russ-Flugzeug-Schulflgz-UT-1-nb55_W0QQitemZ280205638824QQihZ018QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

MiG-3:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110228814403&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

Basta!  Wink

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« Reply #121 on: March 06, 2008, 10:49:41 PM »

Good shot of MiG-3, with wing gun housings:
http://cgi.ebay.de/WWII-WKII-FOTO-FLUGZEUG-27_W0QQitemZ310029466548QQihZ021QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

SB:
http://cgi.ebay.de/WWII-WKII-FOTO-FLUGZEUG-22_W0QQitemZ260217875083QQihZ016QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

I-16 type 5 or 6? (Stand somewhere else, Buddy!):
http://cgi.ebay.de/WWII-WKII-FOTO-FLUGZEUG-26_W0QQitemZ260217875557QQihZ016QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

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« Reply #122 on: March 06, 2008, 11:04:37 PM »

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Hi John,
good. Thank you for sharing the link. The MiG-3 looks known from another photograph. Pity that we can't read codes on its tail.

The I-16 should be a type 6, it lacks the guides for the sliding-forward canopy.

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« Reply #123 on: March 07, 2008, 12:50:18 AM »

Thanks John for this nice pictures.As Massimo said,the I-16 is a Type 6,or as I prefer to call it,a Type 5 of late production.It has the rounded windscreen.Greetings:

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« Reply #124 on: March 07, 2008, 06:17:33 AM »



as far as I know all of the type 6 'Ispanskii' (Spanish) featured a third machine gun at the bottom of the cowling and all of them went to Spain.

I believe the proper designation for this aircraft is I-16 Type 5 -1938 Production.

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« Reply #125 on: March 08, 2008, 03:34:37 AM »

Yow! A major update on avia-n-aero, including this beautiful early Yak-1, with skis and rocket rails - too bad the photo doesn't show markings:
http://www.avia-n-aero.ru/photo.php?category_id=22&parent_id=0&photo_id=5877&countdisplay=&start=40

The first 6 pages have been added in the past day or two; the URL for a-n-a is:
http://www.avia-n-aero.ru/photo.php

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« Reply #126 on: March 08, 2008, 03:51:00 PM »

Hi John, Smiley
this image is really good! Good resolution, no defects... one can even see inside the wheels bays lightened by the reflex of snow!
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« Reply #127 on: March 10, 2008, 01:40:37 AM »

This one is especially interesting:

http://www.avia-n-aero.ru/photo.php?category_id=30&parent_id=0&photo_id=5883&countdisplay=&start=40

It proves the delivery of ultra-secret prototypes to the Soviets before June 1941, like Ju 88 nightfighters and late-mark Stukas  Grin
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« Reply #128 on: March 10, 2008, 02:27:07 AM »

Hi John, Smiley
this image is really good! Good resolution, no defects... one can even see inside the wheels bays lightened by the reflex of snow!
Massimo


Yes, I also noticed, on this aircraft at least, it shows clearly that the wheel wells and inner faces of the landing gear doors were painted in a colour different from the AII Blue of the undersurfaces.

This one is especially interesting:

http://www.avia-n-aero.ru/photo.php?category_id=30&parent_id=0&photo_id=5883&countdisplay=&start=40

It proves the delivery of ultra-secret prototypes to the Soviets before June 1941, like Ju 88 nightfighters and late-mark Stukas Grin

Hitler, under conditions of worsening diplomatic relations between Russia and Germany, realized too late that the Soviets might develop effective war machines from these prototypes (and from the time machine which delivered them), and turn them against him. He ordered the launch of Operation Barbarossa, with one of its key objectives being the seizure and return or destruction of these prototypes. I'm sure I read it on the Internet somewhere, so it *must* be true... Wink

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« Reply #129 on: March 10, 2008, 09:05:09 PM »

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Quote from: ChristianK on March 09, 2008, 06:40:37 PM
This one is especially interesting:

http://www.avia-n-aero.ru/photo.php?category_id=30&parent_id=0&photo_id=5883&countdisplay=&start=40

It proves the delivery of ultra-secret prototypes to the Soviets before June 1941, like Ju 88 nightfighters and late-mark Stukas


Hitler, under conditions of worsening diplomatic relations between Russia and Germany, realized too late that the Soviets might develop effective war machines from these prototypes (and from the time machine which delivered them), and turn them against him. He ordered the launch of Operation Barbarossa, with one of its key objectives being the seizure and return or destruction of these prototypes. I'm sure I read it on the Internet somewhere, so it *must* be true...

Hi, Smiley
I think that this photo was taken at the war's end in a German airfield captured by Russians.
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« Reply #130 on: March 11, 2008, 03:16:01 PM »

Oh Massimo, you're such a poor sport  Cheesy

But you're adressing an interesting issue, pictures of german airfields taken by soviet soldiers at the end of war. Is there any other published collection of such photos besides the "Trofej" from Frontline Illustrations? (I know it's a little off topic, let's call it "Late war VVS photos with german planes in the background")

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« Reply #131 on: March 11, 2008, 03:43:51 PM »

Ok, you were joking.
About books on this topic, I've only the one that you have already mentioned.
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« Reply #132 on: March 12, 2008, 05:47:25 PM »


Yow! A major update on avia-n-aero, including this beautiful early Yak-1, with skis and rocket rails - too bad the photo doesn't show markings:
http://www.avia-n-aero.ru/photo.php?category_id=22&parent_id=0&photo_id=5877&countdisplay=&start=40

John

Hi Massimo - I wonder if the Yak-1 in the link above is the same one as this:
http://www.avia-n-aero.ru/photo.php?category_id=29&parent_id=29&photo_id=894&countdisplay=&start=0

There are 4 images of the "Yellow (White?) 6" Yak-1 on Avia-n-Aero; I don't think any of them is from a correct angle to show whether or not that aircraft has rocket rails, though.

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« Reply #133 on: March 12, 2008, 10:09:10 PM »

Hah! I found it:
http://www.avia-n-aero.ru/photo.php?category_id=30&parent_id=0&photo_id=4709&countdisplay=&start=1200

This (I assumed previously because of the surroundings and the people in the photo) is another shot of "Yellow 6", even though the number is not visible. If you save it, then open it with whatever image editor you use, and increase the brightness, you can see a set of RO-82 rails under the right wing! That, plus the similarity in camouflage pattern and the snow and other objects under the aircraft, leads me to believe that the new photo is in fact also "Yellow 6". Five separate images of the same unusual Yak-1 - skis, rocket rails, dropped flaps, and summer camouflage - I think that's amazing. I wonder if there was something special going on that resulted in so much photo-taking? Regardless, what a great and well-documented subject for a model!

Edit - I just noticed that in all 5 images, the prop blades are in the same rotational position, too!  Cheesy

John
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« Reply #134 on: March 13, 2008, 06:26:25 AM »



John, actually the first URL that you posted for this plane shows the rails. (one of them anyway)
it is 'tucked-in' between the landing gears main strut and the retraction arm.
(this become more visible in the larger version of the photo)
if you see it click on this :
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