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Author Topic: A new book with Mr. Orlov among the authors  (Read 880 times)
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2019, 12:20:10 AM »

Thank you gentlemen for the heads up on this book! I was tempted to buy it, but I think I'll pass it up now.

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Jason
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2019, 06:54:38 PM »

Hi all,

I have now read this book. What I'm familiar are the Luftwaffe and the VVS which I can comment a bit.

Luftwaffe seems to be in line with earlier works of the late Ken Merrick and Michael Ullman. After their latest books new information of the late-war colours (RLM 80 to 83) has been found and it is presented. There are also plenty of original documents including colour cards printed.

About the VVS there are not much new for longer term enthusiast of the subject but especially various camouflage trials are quite extensively presented. In fact I would have preferred more pictures of the standard cases instead. For the documents same can be said as I already said about the Luftwaffe.

Profile of the MIG-3 of lieutenant Estjen would have been better after having a look of Massimo's page of the aircraft Wink

No comments about RAF and the USA from me. I hope to hear someone else commenting about them.

So far I'm happy that I obtained it. I'd say it as a one stop resource of the main combatants of the WWII aviation colours. Unless something similar as in the tank book is found...

About the price... It could have been split into four books, each of one country, and all of them sold for 40-50 s.

I have nothing to do with the publisher or the authors of this publication.

Cheers,

AaCee
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2019, 08:14:10 AM »

Hi  AaCee
good to know about the Luftwaffe chapter.
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Profile of the MIG-3 of lieutenant Estjen would have been better after having a look of Massimo's page of the aircraft
What is wrong with their profile? I haven't seen it.

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Massimo
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2019, 07:06:20 PM »

Hi Massimo,

Profile has the tail number "1" outlined in white and rear fuselage trestle markings are missing.

Cheers,

AaCee
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2019, 06:27:29 AM »

Hi AaCee,
I see. In tht case, there is the rudder preserved in Finland and we can know for sure. I wonder how many unsuspected colors can be found. There is an excellent series of articles by Timin on recent M-Hobby with great images, particularly at the time of Barbarossa. I would love to see a translation. Probably they are not fundamental as those of Orlov twenty years ago, but give a lot of new nice images.
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Massimo
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2019, 08:52:33 AM »

Hi all,
I received a mail from Maciej Goralczyk of AK interactive. Here it is:

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Hi Massimo,

I've seen some comments on your forum.
To clarify some things:
- the Aircraft book was essentially created by a different editorial team than the AFV book. Aside from the authors and illustrator, the only people involved in its creation were: me as the executive editor, and the graphic designer which is also Polish and works for AK-Interactive as an outside contractor, plus a fellow modeller and magazine contributor from UK, who proof read the German and Soviet chapters.
- each author have seen the layout and was able to comment it, recommend any changes and approve their application before anything went to print. So, no stories about ghostwriting apply here. This also concerns the colour profiles - all were shown to the authors for their approval.
- from what I know, all the authors are happy with the result and do not complain about anything. Perhaps the Soviet chapter does not bring a lot of news for the "die-hard" afficionados as some of the members of your forum, but for Russians it is very important as their voice against Pilavski's claims - hence the Scalemodels.ru support, whose one of the admins helped with translation and contacts with Mr. Orlov
- regarding the AMT-12 tone - in the colour table there's colour description from Mr. Orlov: "Very dark, close to black" - these are his own words, and I'm not in position to argue with him.

Kind regards,
Maciej
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2019, 09:41:04 PM »

Interesting. But "very dark, close to black" doesn't mean the same as black as the AK colour is presented. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall that a field substitute for AMT-12 consisted of a mix of black (AMT-6) and blue (AMT-7), so the end result would be a very dark blue-grey, not dead black.

John
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2019, 07:23:49 AM »

Hi John,
two links from Maciej:
https://abload.de/img/dsc_0469jhjew.jpg
https://abload.de/img/dsc_0471byj1h.jpg
Seems that their AMT-12 is as dark as Akan, and probably it appears this way on the Nakrasok.
Probably the real paint had some variability and was prone to fade.
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Massimo
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