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Polikarpov monoplanes with radial engine. From TsKB-12 to I-185
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2020, 07:14:24 AM »

Hi Bernard,
thank you for posting the photos of your work on the Type 29. I am glad that my drawings have found a so good use.
Some courage is needed to start such a modification on an already completed model.
The page on Type 29 is more or less completed, I wonder if to upload it or to wait for the other pages. A reorganization of the I-16 page is needed too to keep the parts on completed models into a subpage to make space for the new contents.
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2020, 01:20:29 PM »

Hi Massimo,
Thank you for your comment and your help to built these kits.
May be it will be easier to add one page after the other than to overhaul the I-16 pages all together. Broken links and other problems would be easier to fix.
And it would be  a way to attract more readers, waiting for the next page to come Wink.
On the french forums were I post, I have already announced  future I-16 pages on SWP.

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Bernard
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2020, 07:07:45 PM »

Hi Bernard,
this could be a possibility.
What worries me is that I see some difficulty to see the updated images when I upload a new version, probably is a problem of cache of the pc that preserves the already downloaded images to save time. In recent time, I was obliged to modify the name of the file to be sure that it was uploaded again after a modification. So I'm trying to upload drawings in definitive version, for what is possible.
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Massimo
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2020, 05:56:27 PM »

Excellent work on those models!

Best Regards,

Jason
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2020, 10:02:17 PM »

Hi everybody,
the researchs done by Massimo for his new pages on I-16 make me realized that I had make a mistake on my UTI-4 with M-25v engine. Even if this type did not have ski recesses, the M25v engine needed ventilation and the UTI-4 had small vents in the undercowling. I could have seen  this before, as I photographed a DB 605 in Vantaa museum some years ago, and behind the engine,  the UTI-4  with its the vents is clearly vivisble.




Here are the corrections made on my UTI-4

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To complete my UTI collection , I have built the UT-2, scratch from a ICM type 24.










 Massimo also informed me of the publication of articles by Andrey Averin in M-hobby about the type 12 and I-163.
I have already built the Type 12 prototype, but I was happy to read about the twelve production aircrafts.



Here is the Type 12 12219



and the I-163-1




and my models
First , I have corrected the karman  trailing edge was straight and not curved



then modified the ICM type 24 to built the type 12 and I-163-1






Type 12










And I-163-1







Landing gear, close to the one of  I-17





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Bernard
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2020, 03:19:02 AM »

Excellent work on those Ishaks! I think I may have seen the tip 12 before, but I don't recall seeing the I-163 before - I'll need to read up on those variants if I ever write my book on Polikarpov fighters.

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Jason
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2020, 04:13:56 PM »

Nice builds, all of them! The paint work looks great, too. A couple of questions:
(1) The propeller spinners - where did you get these, or did you make them yourself? The Amodel Type 5 spinner is too shallow; the ones in your photos look more like the one from the Amodel UTI-4.
(2) Same thing for the canopies on the type 12 and the I-163 - did you form these yourself, or are they from Bring It!/Modellers' Little Helper?

Thanks in advance for any answers!

John
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2020, 11:17:58 PM »

Hi Bernard,
I am very impressed for the growing up of your collection. I wonder if anything is still missing in this monumental work.
I owe to Righidan the most part of recently collected documents about the I-16, I see that you have made an excellent use of it.
I've resumed to work on the I-16 page, starting with some updates to the drawings, and seeing your works is a good inspiration for this.
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Massimo
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2020, 12:09:18 AM »

Thank you for your comments
(1) The propeller spinners -  For the Type 12,  it's PU home made. I  prepared  a mold using a  Amodel spinner as master  as I have built several type 5 and 10 from the ICM Type 24. For the I-163, I have corrected the ICM spinner as the photos show a more pointed spinner
(2)  the canopies on the type 12 and the I-163 . Home made with vivak and thermoforming. Plaster master . Frames made with adhesive aluminium tape.
John
I wonder if anything is still missing in this monumental work. I think they were my last I-16, except if you make me discover new datas like theses Type 12 and I-163 or correction to improve my already built kits  . However, I have a lot of other Polikarpov projects. From IL400 to ITP-M2 including the Mig for the monoplanes and several U2 for the biplanes.

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Bernard
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2020, 08:38:16 AM »

Hi Bernard,
a Type 17 with long ailerons could be interesting enough? I still wonder if it has come out of the factory in this way, or was rebuilt as an hybrid.
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2020, 09:23:55 PM »

Hi Massimo,
Before hybrids,  I would have to built prototypes like the UT-3, I-16 TK or type 20 to complete the family. May be later.
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Bernard
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2021, 10:15:56 AM »

Hi everybody,
As stated in my last answer to Massimo, I have build the UTI-3 and I-16 V (or TK) type 5 .
I have  used the ICM  type 18-24-28 . This kit is a better base than the UTI-4 or Type 5 Amodel, even if there is more work to obtain an early version.

UTI-3

Massimo suggests a yellow color for this plane. I remained more classical with aluminium dope.

















I-16 V



















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Bernard


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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2021, 02:59:23 PM »

Nice! I especially like the I-16V - is that the cowling face from the ICM I-15bis? You really did a lot of work on these impressive models!

John
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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2021, 04:55:05 PM »

Thank you John,
Yes, I used the spared cowling face of an I-15 bis that I used to built this Zhong 28 B.  For the UTI 3, I did not used the cowling parts   of the ICM I-16 and scrachbuilt the face  and the cowling.



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Bernard
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2021, 01:56:59 AM »

Excellent work! Like John, I especially like the high-altitude version - a very interesting version. I don't believe I've seen that version of the I-16 before.

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Jason
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