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barneybolac
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« on: February 24, 2017, 07:37:48 PM »

Anymore information on Captain Lobanov's  aircraft #30?
Specifically would it have had a red nose like some of the other aircraft in the link?



https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rulit.me%2Fbooks%2Faviaciya-i-kosmonavtika-2015-05-read-395705-2.html&edit-text= 
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2017, 08:47:17 PM »

Hi,
great image and good link.
I have something related on a rough La-5 page that is not yet linked:


Plane n.70 of St. Lt. Sementsov of 41 GIAP, Ukraine 1944. It was characterized by a red hearth on both sides of the cowling. (Photo: EP pag.58)

The white cap on the tail was typical of planes of 8 GIAD, to which 41 GIAP belonged.

Thanks to Aleksandr Ruchkovsky.


About the red nose, I think that it is something that was added on Lavochkins in late 1944, so seeing it or not depends on the time of the photo.

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Massimo
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barneybolac
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 07:19:54 AM »

Excellent profile.

Some art work from the link I posted showing the same scheme.

http://www.rulit.me/books/aviaciya-i-kosmonavtika-2015-05-read-395705-9.html
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barneybolac
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 10:03:12 AM »


About the red nose, I think that it is something that was added on Lavochkins in late 1944, so seeing it or not depends on the time of the photo.

Regards
Massimo

Have the answer.



https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsoviet-aces-1936-53.ru%2Fabc%2Fl%2Flobanov_av.htm
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PG monster
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2019, 09:15:29 PM »

http://ava.org.ru/iap/41g.htm
More hearts, incl the white(?) one and the red noses.
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2019, 08:12:38 AM »

Excellent photos.
Just I would see a tail of this unit to check if there is anything particular.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2021, 03:13:16 PM »

Anymore information on Captain Lobanov's  aircraft #30?

Have a look here:

https://www.planesinprofile.com/la5fn/lobanov/white-30

At the bottom of the page there are some links to the reference photos.  Including a photo of a plane which appears to be from the 41 GIAP (maybe even White-30?) showing a part of the tail,  It looks like there were no markings on the tail (Well, except for the star of course:)

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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2021, 04:22:18 PM »

Hi Anton,
welcome to Sovietwarplanes, I'm glad to read your posts.
I've had a look to your page on Lobanov's plane, it is very well made and well explained. I like your way to comment every information that can be extracted from the photos and merge them with other sources.
Thank you for your information about the tail of this plane. I have a page on La-5 F/FN yet uncomplete and not yet linked from the main menu of Sovietwarplanes, some day I'll give to it the time that deserves to be shown. Regards
Massimo
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2021, 05:29:47 AM »

Thanks very much Massimo! It's good to hear:)

I wish I could find more info about Lobanov's plane, but at this stage there seems to be very little of it out there.  But hopefully as new info comes up, that page can be improved.

Yes,  I have noticed that SovietWarPlanes doesn't have any La-5F and La-5FN planes on it yet,  that's partly why I tried to research some of these machines.  But it's great to know that you have drawn some of these already (The ones I've seen are beautifully done, as always!). Looking forward to you creating a section dedicated to the La-5F and FN! (as I am sure many other people are also:)
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2021, 08:11:44 AM »

Hi Anton,

i had started a page on La-5F, FN and UTI one or two years after having made the profiles for Jason, but didn't find time to complete the work.  You can have a look to the work in process (or in stasis) at these links:

https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/la5/la5f/la5f.html

https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/la5/la5fn/la5fn.html

https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/la5/la5uti/la5uti.html

Any correction, suggestion on how to complete the text etc is welcome.

By the way, I am not satisfied with the template, I am considering to shift all the nose a bit lower.



Best regards
Massimo
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2021, 02:11:24 PM »

Oh Wow! Massimo,  Is it Christmas already!? I felt like a kid unwrapping Christmas presents when I was looking through the links you've shared:) The work looks amazing!  Gosh, you've done so much already.  And here I thought that you haven't done the La-5F and La-5FNs yet (Because they are not in the 'La-5 family' section on the website). lol.  How wrong was I!:)

It's so good to see these pages,  thanks for sharing them.  It also makes me quite happy that you've interpreted some of the planes in the same way that I did:)   For example,  our Belyasnik's White-40 look very similar, same as our  'Veseliye Rebyata' planes (all with with white/silver) inscriptions.  Actually,  talking about the 5th GIAP,  it's interesting that you have interpreted Popkov's La-5FN to have a white line on the rim of the rudder.  I thought the same too.  This is why I have drawn the Veseliye Rebyata airplanes with a white rim on the rudder too , as "hypothetical" profiles of what they might have looked like once they were given the 5th GIAPS markings.   By the way,  I always wandered-  do you not think that Popkov's White-01 was missing the sliding part of the canopy ?  were they fixing it at the time of the photo or did Popkov actually fly the plane without the moving part of the canopy? Will be interesting to find out:)

Anyway, I can't keep messages long,  but it's very exciting to see the pages that you have shared! Thanks again:)

I wander if it's worth starting new threads to talk about the other la-5s,  since this thread is dedicated to Lobanov's White-30.
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2021, 03:17:08 PM »

Hi Anton,
I'm happy that you have appreciated this work still to be completed. All informations, comments, suggestions t continue it will be welcome, keeping in mind that now I am working on a page on A-20s with profiles of Tapani.
Many informations and suggestions on the profiles of La-5F/FN were from Alex Ruchkovsky, do you know him?
About the sliding hood of Popkov's plane, it really looks that it was not installed at the time of the photo.

Some more photos of his plane/planes are known, but I am not fully sure that them all them are from the same plane.
Of course you can open new threads on La-5s. Just check, please, if there is already any old thread on the subjects you choose.


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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2021, 03:30:22 PM »


Any correction, suggestion on how to complete the text etc is welcome.

By the way, I am not satisfied with the template, I am considering to shift all the nose a bit lower.



This is from the album of the 301st plant, the prototype of La-5 UTI, "accepted for serial production"

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2021, 10:15:53 AM »

Thank you for the information. It seems very different from production planes.
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