|
John Thompson
|
|
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2020, 11:57:26 PM » |
|
Does this help? Not the best drawing for wing underside details, but maybe it's enough. If not, let me know, and I'll keep looking. John
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Massimo Tessitori
|
|
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2020, 08:22:15 AM » |
|
Hi, wing model 1941... this is from a book of Rastrenin I've seen your AM half-built. For inside colors, don't worry, it could be that it was repainted in some maintenance session. A lot of unexpected colors have been seen inside Soviet planes. Regards Massimo
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
John Thompson
|
|
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2020, 12:40:55 PM » |
|
Hi, wing model 1941... this is from a book of Rastrenin
Yes, that's much better! John
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
nsmekanik
Newbie
Posts: 47
|
|
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2020, 08:14:40 AM » |
|
Thank you Gentlemen, very much appreciated Is there any information as to where 174 ShAP was in the end of October in 1941?
|
|
« Last Edit: May 06, 2020, 08:20:16 AM by nsmekanik »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Ohotnyik
Jr. Member
Posts: 94
|
|
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2020, 10:10:44 AM » |
|
Thank you Gentlemen, very much appreciated Is there any information as to where 174 ShAP was in the end of October in 1941? http://ava.org.ru/shap/15g.htm
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
nsmekanik
Newbie
Posts: 47
|
|
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2020, 10:32:51 AM » |
|
Thank you for that, very much appreciated
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
nsmekanik
Newbie
Posts: 47
|
|
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2020, 03:20:32 PM » |
|
I've seen your AM half-built. For inside colors, don't worry, it could be that it was repainted in some maintenance session. A lot of unexpected colors have been seen inside Soviet planes.
Regards Massimo
Thanks Massimo, when I get to it I think I will finish it as silver? 94 that's in the profiles, as I have the Errormaster decals for it, the 94 will be white though as that's what they are on the sheet. Tim
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
expositor
Jr. Member
Posts: 55
|
|
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2020, 11:01:52 PM » |
|
So is it a wing with larger guns that has the asymmetric shell ejection ports?
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Massimo Tessitori
|
|
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2020, 08:09:33 AM » |
|
Hi, larger guns? No, they are smaller: 20 mm ShVAK instead of the 23 mm VYa of later types. I strongly suspect that the waste shells and links slots are drawn wrongly. They don't resemble what we see on ShVAK-armed I-16s. I had a look to photos but found few. To have an idea, please see the drawings of the I-16, keeping in mind that the guns on I-16 protruded much more than on the Il-2; on I-16, the waste links were expelled from a small tube aside the barrel, on Il-2 this could be replaced by a tube expelling them from a circular, oval or rectangular small slot. and always on the same side of the barrel. Regards Massimo
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
expositor
Jr. Member
Posts: 55
|
|
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2020, 10:11:32 PM » |
|
Hi Massimo,
I just assumed a later plane would be up-gunned with one with a larger bore. Anyway, is that drawing above correct as to the ejection chutes? I can't recall where I saw plans with the asymmetric ports, and this fire tablet I'm forced to use doesn't search well; or maybe it's just me?
Thanks, Jim
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Massimo Tessitori
|
|
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2020, 11:14:22 PM » |
|
I don't think that the drawing of Il-2 is correct, I think that there is a more or less square hole and a smaller hole in front of it. The long slot of the drawing doesn't seem confirmed by photos or analogies with those of I-16. Regards Massimo
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|