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Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra
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Author Topic: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra  (Read 2422 times)
Graham Boak
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« on: September 06, 2021, 04:41:29 PM »

The cover of Red Stars 4 shows a P-39 with red spinner, two diagonal yellow stripes on the tail, 32 red star claims above the exhausts, and a yellow snake with red zig-zag pattern on the central fuselage.  The same (presumably) aircraft is in Osprey's Soviet Lend-lease Fighter Aces, but with white tail stripes, where it is credited to Sultan Amet-Khan in 9 IAP.

Are there any known pictures of this aircraft?  Perhaps others would be willing to discuss this?

I tried to look through the thread on VVS P-39s but access was blocked by a Trojan warning on all but the final half-dozen pages.
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John Thompson
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2021, 05:18:02 PM »

I tried to look through the thread on VVS P-39s but access was blocked by a Trojan warning on all but the final half-dozen pages.

Do you mean this one?
https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?topic=1714.0

I don't have any problem with virus warnings on it; maybe someone with more software knowledge can suggest a solution. What I do see is entirely too many images with that annoying Photobucket overprint on them!

John
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Graham Boak
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2021, 05:41:42 PM »

Yes.  However I wasn't prepared to risk it on the off-chance that this aircraft might be referred to.
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2021, 06:59:41 AM »

Bad to know about the alert. Has anyone had similar problems on the forum?
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2021, 11:08:02 AM »

Daniele has scanned the page with Virustotal, it showed no warnings of menaces. Could I see the screenshot of your warning, please?
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Graham Boak
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2021, 11:39:47 AM »

Thanks Massimo and Daniele.  Yesterday, when I checked the link in John Thompson's post, it showed the same message about Trojans.  Today, it went straight to the first page of the thread, and I have since worked through the thread without problems.  I have also opened the thread from the site directly with no problems.  So it seems that whatever was happening has gone away.

I did find some interesting postings about grey P-39s but nothing about the cobra design.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2021, 12:58:40 PM »

Hi Graham,





Cobra with the snake is a fiction, check pg. 12 at the link in the previous posts.
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Graham Boak
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2021, 07:49:16 PM »

Thank you, 66misos.
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2021, 10:38:25 AM »

Hi,
I found this photo at http://www.pilotenbunker.de/Jagdflieger/CCCP/Sultan_Ahmet/sultan.htm:


V. Lavrenikov, I. Borisov, A. Aleljuhin, A. Morozov, A.H. Sultan and P. Golovachev infront of a P-39 in 1944.

Seems to be the same photo session as this one:


Another photo, unfortunately does not show much from the Cobra:


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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2021, 12:35:39 PM »

Hi Misos,
it seems to show its absence.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2021, 10:58:30 PM »

That's too bad about the snake - I have the markings like on that profile, and a painted P-39 to put them on. I may do it anyway as I suppose it's possible it was painted this way at some point, even though eyewitness accounts are not always reliable. Of course it's my model, so I can do any markings I wish, but I would like them to be rooted in fact.

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Jason
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