Il-2 photos

[KL]

Demarcation lines between camouflage colours should be something like this:



Higher rezolution photo at http://waralbum.ru/31631/



Cheers,
KL

[learstang]

Why is there so little contrast between the colours?  Film used, photograph fading, colour fading, lighting conditions...?

Regards,

Jason

[KL]

A combination of factors:
- Bright sunlight - photo was taken mid-day
- Photo is underexposed - there is more contrast between grass and dirt under the wings, in the shade
- Photographer probably used yellow filter to accentuate clouds
- Matt (flat) paints, only minimal reflections are visible
- AMT-1 looks dirty/stained, AMT-12 looks chalked/faded

[learstang]

Thank you, Konstantin!  That all makes sense.

Regards,

Jason

[KL]

Oleg/Massimo,
.... Any additional info about the photo:  who, when, where?  What unit?  Who took the photo?  any other photos from the series???

Ups! I didn't check begining of this thread - Oleg answered those questions 5 years ago...

Of course I know...
872 ShAP 13th VA, Eastern Prussia, 1945. Airplane of HSU Fedyakov, who is just leaving cockpit after 150th combat mission. Did it help a bit?

Some amuzing posts there at the page 1 - "South Front Scheme", "the navy was known for using uncommon coloration", "AII Green/Dark Green scheme was painted only on single-seat aircraft at the factory"... 

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi all,
I can try to complete and improve this image.
I suspect to have to reject the idea that the dark grey appears darker than all the other colors in photos, it looks quicker to fade.
About the black boots, I've taken the darkness of those of the photo, only adding a color. I see that they don't look black, but they don't look so on the bw photo either, and I am not sure it's a good thing to alter the original darkness. Perhaps they were of some color other than black, maybe some brown.
About the 'puzzle', it looks that only one factory (possibly z.1) interpretated the right wing of the template in that way, possibly using masks, while other shturmoviks made by other factories had straighter and more longitudinal demarcations on wings.
Regards
Massimo

[FPSOlkor]

I've seen brown and more grayer then usual black boots in the army - if boots were leather (as they should be for the officer) they must be black. And they seem to be gloss - white line of reflection proves it. But there were boots made of (i have no idea how it is called in english, so I'll name it in russian spelling) Kirza and Canvas. Kirza - artificial leather, sometimes it may look like asphalt, if not looked after properly. Canvas boots were more common with privates and seargeants, and they may look greenish.
P.S. Why there is no possibility to directly download photos to the site? It could have helped a lot and save lots of trouble. If only I had such a possibility...

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Oleg,
you mean, upload image files directly on the forum? John Myers disactivated this possibilty a lot of years ago to save space of memory. I'll ask him how we are with memory availability now.
Regards
Massimo

[KL]

Optional interpretation:

-Starboard wing camouflaged in scheme 1 attached to centroplan/fuselage camouflaged in scheme 2 





This would be very close to Massimo's original interpretation...  but colours, especially green AMT-4 should be changed...