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Audrius
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« on: February 03, 2006, 09:50:01 PM »

hello,

more good news: the series production of new SB by ICM 1/72 has been started. Such news were announced on Russian forum.
At the start there are two models : "Spanish" SB 2M100 and VVS SB 2M-100A. Next will be "german" i.e. captured, imho.

Here are the boxart of the first two:

and


And there is the model presented by ICM on the Nuernberg-2006 fair:

(c) http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de

More planned releases you could find here:
http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2006/Nuernberg_2006.html

BR Audrius

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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2006, 09:35:14 PM »

Hi Audrius, Smiley
happy to read you again. Thank you for your link.
The news of ICM are extremely interesting. I didn't imagine the Ki-10. The most interesting thing looks to be a LaGG-3 in 1/48! And a lot of Dornier in 1/72.
Who knows if they will release an SB 2M103 too? I fear they won't. Who knows if it's easy to move engines from an MPM kit?
The list of news is a true mine. I am surprised to see Italian boats in 1/35 and 72 made by Italeri.

Massimo
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Audrius
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2006, 03:03:59 PM »

hello Massimo,

> The most interesting thing looks to be a LaGG-3 in 1/48!

On the net I have found the ICM catalogue for 2006 in Russian. Thus I captured the only page regarding Lagg-3. Have a look:


Doesn't make any thought for you regarding camo?  Grin

Best wishes
Audrius
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2006, 07:38:13 PM »

Hi Audrius, Smiley
great! Yes, I think to have already seen that camo!
I hope that they will produce all the family.
Could you give the link to the catalogue, please?
Massimo
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2006, 08:58:15 AM »

Hi Massimo,

link:

http://scalemodels.ru/modules/mydownloads/

By the way, ICM have declared LaGG-3 1ser., and Galchenko's plane represented in their catalogue if I am not mistaken was later series (3 machine guns and a gun).

Sergey.
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Audrius
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2006, 02:01:27 PM »

hello friends,
here by link you can have a glance inside the kit's box: http://www.dishmodels.ru/dis_main.htm?p=e936&mode=1
it is posted on russian modeling site: www.dishmodels.ru

At first glance it looks nice. But judging from the quantity of details and how the model is divided into parts (fuselage) it will require time and skills to assemble.

BR Audrius
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Audrius
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2006, 02:21:53 PM »


Hi Massimo, link:
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/mydownloads/
By the way, ICM have declared LaGG-3 1ser., and Galchenko's plane represented in their catalogue if I am not mistaken was later series (3 machine guns and a gun).Sergey.

Massimo, since the link given by KSL is on russian page, I thought the enclosed picture will make clear where to press in order to download the ICM catalogue:


Regarding the model of Lagg-3. KSL is true- ICM is announcing Lagg-3 of 1st series but the Galchenko's Lagg is of the later series of course! A slite errror  Wink

BR Audrius
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2006, 10:14:42 PM »

Hi Audrius, hi Sergey, Smiley
having a look to the scomposition of pieces of SB, I think that they will release the trained and the plane with 2-M103.  The rear fuselage and the central part of wing are divided. Besides I think to see a small windshield for the trainer in the clear sprue.
Here is a good new! I didn't hope this.
Now I have to see what to do with my MPM kits, probably they wll be inferior in all respects.
Dishmodels looks a good site.
I'm downloading the ICM catalogue now. Thanks
Massimo


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Audrius
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2006, 10:37:50 PM »

having a look to the scomposition of pieces of SB, I think that they will release the trained and the plane with 2-M103.

Regarding SB with M103 you are right. Such obtion was assumed making the master-model, as reliable source informed.

As well, regarding the boxart of the "spanish" version of the kit- SB 2M100 nr.5- unfortunately but the artwork in the red band on the fuselage has no any proof, moreover there is not known any picture depicting such camo. Be aware! Wink

BR Audrius
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2006, 08:50:01 PM »

Hi, Smiley
I've bought the kit, only the Spanish version at the moment. It looks very fine. I hope that the trasversal junction line on the fuselage will not ruin the panels too much. Maybe it was better to move it on a position where it can be masked by the turret vane or the bomb vane.
Massimo
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2006, 02:02:09 PM »

I found just one yesterday in my hobby store, lurking behind the towering piles of P-51s and Fw190s on display. Price roughly 10 GBP -is this a good price to pay for it?

As a side-note, there was a huge glass cabinet on display in the shop representing 'WW2 airpower'. Thus, I counted amongst the many spitfires, mosquitos, Me 262s and warhawk models -one Mitsubishi Zero, one Fiat and..no VVS models at all. Not one.

Says something about western perceptions and whatnot maybe.

Answers on a postcard to the usual address. : /
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2006, 09:43:50 PM »

Hi Ioaea, Smiley
I paid 16 euros for it, it seems about the same value.

About Soviet weapons... well, in the tank matter it's even worse.
Let's consider T-55 and T-62: how many of them can we find with Israeli markingsin the model shows ? How many of them are reproduced with Syrian, Egypitian or Iraqui markings as burned wrecks?
And the T-34: from what one can find on model shows, don't you suspect that it is a German tank? Angry

Massimo
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2006, 09:48:09 AM »

Quite right, Massimo, although I'll take your word for it regarding tanks, I don't know tanks.

Isn't there a boxing of a La-5 in luftwaffe colours though? Italeri? Why?

So anyway, after my last post, and having business in town, I did a mini-poll of three reasonably large model suppliers based here. I found that of all 72nd scale ww2 subjects available, there was a single SB and two Il-2 sturmoviks (Eastern Express) all in just one of these shops. Post ww2, soviet airpower is better catered for. Mig 15s, Su- 7s and whatnot are more readily available; something like a dozen of these types for sale (out of, say, two hundred items). Additionally, one Cant seaplane for Italian airpower and a couple of (very pricy) Tamiya Japanese bombers was all I could find for what seems to me two more niche modelling markets in the west.

All of this is interesting on a number of levels, whether we look at supply and demand in this industry or a less tangible notion of western perceptions of the ww2 airwars, which for many goes perhaps something like this:

Battle of Britain ->African campaign ->Pacific War ->B17s over Europe ->D-day ->Early jets and weird nazi prototypes.

A russian collector's display may very well be utterly different, of course. I'd like to learn more about such a display.

So, we need to get out there and deluge the SMAKRs and ARCs on the web with our subject matter. Set up a link exchange with the japanese and italian air modelling groups, or something, for mutual promotional purposes. Just publicise our 'specialised' hobby a little more -it wouldn't hurt, that's for sure, as long as we're agreed that there is no political agenda on hand. Remember, for some, the hammer and sickle is as every bit as offensive as the swastika.

All things to dwell upon.

Comments appreciated and welcomed.

Adieu!

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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2006, 04:47:37 PM »

A good and thoughtful post, Ioaea! As a keen enthusiast of Russian GPW aircraft in 1/72, I'm constantly disappointed that decent kits of these fascinating aircraft are so rare - I'd be embarrassed to admit how many Cooperativa LaG-5 and Toko LaGG-3 kits I've butchered, trying to create a more accurate La-5, and this was a *very* significant fighter of that era. If we did not have Amodel and ICM releasing the occasional one, we'd be depending on reissues by EE or Gran (for example) of older "cottage industry" kits from gone-but-not-forgotten sources like Dakoplast and VES. To my (perhaps prejudiced) eye, the camouflage schemes and individual markings of Russian pilots/aircraft are far more attractive and interesting than those of any other WWII air force. In fact, with due respect for the enthusiasts of Japanese and Italian kit subjects, I would suggest that the emphasis/interest of companies like Hasegawa, or even Italeri, runs more like:
German>British>US>Japanese>Italian>>>>Russian!

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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2006, 07:18:22 PM »

Hi,  Smiley
there is a long history of Italian planes and tanks shown with German markings on Italeri boxes: BR-20, semovente 75/18 etc. There are even two boxes of 1/35 soldiers that were sold as "Axis paratroops" and "axis attack forces" that were originally produced as Italian paratroops and Italian Bersaglieri. Ridiculus, isn't it?
The first box of the new CR-42 of Italeri has German marks, we have to wait for a box with Italian markings.
Their original name was Italaerei, then changed it into Italeri, some years ago I feared that their next name could have becomed Germaneri.
However, it would be wrong to cry now that, in recent years, Italeri has some new interest for Italian vehicles and planes.
About Japanese modelling sites: I know an excellent one in English. Probably there are a lot of excellent ones in Japanese language, but...
For Italian sites, it can be easier. At least I can translate.
I would add that French AF and other European AFs can be interesting. There is at least one good site on Yugoslav AF in English.

Massimo
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