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Author Topic: Two photos from me... As an excuse for long absence.  (Read 5593 times)
FPSOlkor
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« on: May 26, 2008, 08:41:55 PM »


Spring of 1943, in the cabin of the A-20 - 13th BAP VVS ChF 1st squadron commander Antonenko Nikolay Mikhailovich.

September 1941. 72nd AP VVS SF 6th squadron commander Antonenko in front of his plane (guess what's the type?)
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 01:23:16 PM »

Hi Oleg, Smiley
thank you for sharing these images.
Is the second plane a Pe-2?
Massimo
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FPSOlkor
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 11:35:07 PM »

1941 SF? Unlikely. Chassis construction is closer to Tupolev and Ilyushin design beuraus. Most likely - SB m-103 or Ar-2
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2008, 11:38:51 PM »

Someone really should tell these pilots to get out of the way when taking photos of aircraft!   Wink
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 01:19:58 AM »

The undercarriage legs look very much like the SB ones.Very good photos,thanks for sharing them FPSOlkor.Best regards:

Martin
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FPSOlkor
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 11:11:00 AM »

Someone really should tell these pilots to get out of the way when taking photos of aircraft!? ?Wink
Best solution would be to chase pilots off the airfield altogeather Grin
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 02:44:34 PM »

Hi, Smiley
it's a Pe-2. I've checked on photos. SB has single-led landing gear and double intake on each wing aside the engine. Besides, Ar-2 hasn't the air intake under the propeller.
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FPSOlkor
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 04:24:03 PM »

Strange... He was not trained to fly it...
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John Thompson
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 09:30:28 PM »

Someone really should tell these pilots to get out of the way when taking photos of aircraft!   Wink
Best solution would be to chase pilots off the airfield altogeather Grin

Too bad so many otherwise excellent "Operation Barbarossa" photos include German soldiers blocking the view of important details of captured VVS aircraft! Very inconsiderate...  Wink

(Having said that, I think everyone involved was too busy just trying to stay alive to imagine or care about our humble interests, 60+ years later - I never wish for a "time machine", because I'd probably end up shot!)

John
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 06:16:22 AM »

Too bad so many otherwise excellent "Operation Barbarossa" photos include German soldiers blocking the view of important details of captured VVS aircraft! Very inconsiderate... Wink

I am in complete agreement with you there , John !
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2008, 03:50:15 PM »

Pe-2 ;-) Dare to say - NEW modification on Pe-2 n that time

Looks on radiator holes in the wings near engines.
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Dark Green Man
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 10:19:12 PM »

Looks on radiator holes in the wings near engines.

that is the feature that says to me 'this is a Pe-2'
I do not know of any other aircraft with elliptical intakes for the oil coolers.
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FPSOlkor
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2008, 08:12:34 PM »

What about Pe-3?
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2008, 06:01:22 AM »

What about Pe-3?

oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Pe-2 or Pe-3 ;Yes ,but SB ;no.
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