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VVS Models Su-4: to build, or not to build
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jschleicher
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« on: December 31, 2009, 12:57:17 PM »

Newbies first post, so please forgive anything stupid.

Some years ago I picked up a VVS Models Su-4 from the Hobby Shop where I lived at the time. At that time it suffered the same fate as many kits I bought: Long Term Storage.

By Long Term Storage I mean into the pool of kits that are eventually sold to buy other kits I want to build "right now". It languished there awaiting its fate for many years. Then one day the build bug bit me, and the kit was moved into the to-build group.

Being in the to build group meant that I finally opened the kit to see what I had to work with. I was pleasently suprised. The injection molding is not to bad for a short run kit, and it came with cast metal goodies. The decal sheet was shot though. So I did what I normally do at this point and started "getting stuff" for the project. I found a PE set for the Su-2 (Common Airframe), and a sweet brass MG that is way nicer than the pretty good cast job with the kit. I've even gone so far as working up a new decal sheet, a copy of what was in the box, for the project (home grown of course, but I can make either decals or dry transfers that will do the job).

Now the problems start.

What little info I can find on the Su-4 is conflicting. One airframe testbed, Several Airframes that saw combat. Plain green/blue scheme with only stars, Green/Blue or White/Blue fully marked with numbers that would be expected on an operational aircraft.

I have not been able to locate any useful info about this aircraft, and very little useful info about its brother the Su-2. Little things like what color the cockpit should be.

So I find myself with a relatively rare (in my part of the world) kit, with all the goodies, ready to build, but without any useful information about it's finish. While I do occasionally suffer from Advanced Modelers Syndrome, and projects get shelved for years because of it, this is more of a case of not enough basic information. I feel that whole color scheme/markings thing kind of important.

I am at the crossroads with this kit. Build it with the color scheme that I find pleasing? Shelve it and keep looking for the last bit of information about its finish? Or just sell the whole kit and kabootle and move on.

Any thoughts?

John
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Dark Green Man
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2010, 06:30:50 AM »


you might find this of interest and it it may also be helpful.
(the one at the bottom is an Su-4 A.K.A. Su-2-M-82 )

http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/Research/Sukhoi/Su-2/Markings/index.php

AML decals from the Czech Republic also offer a nice set of decals for this kit.
the third option on sheet 72008 is for Major Pushkin's White 100 of the 52 BBAP.

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jschleicher
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2010, 09:07:05 AM »

Wow!

Talk about a bunch of questions answered in one shot.

Thanks a bunch Dark Green Man.

John
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Dark Green Man
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2010, 05:33:15 PM »


I am glad you found it useful.
now if I can just find you a link to that decal sheet so you can see what I am talking about.
....ah -here we are....


http://www.aml.cz/en/AD7208-1.html


if you are interested in the Su-2 then I can highly recommend the ICM kit , I think it is the best kit put out by ICM.
this kit is the basis of the conversions (M-88B and M-82) shown on the AML website.

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