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Author Topic: P-40E/Kittyhawk with Klimov engine  (Read 7807 times)
marluc
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« on: November 13, 2010, 07:11:31 PM »

Hello:

I can?t remember if this topic was discussed before,I?ve made a search but nothing came out.So,I would like to know if anyone have seen a photo of this Klimov engined P-40 two seater:



I would like to make one of these re-engined Kittyhawks as it?s an interesting modelling subject.This is the only photo I have:

It?s from Osprey "Soviet Lend -Lease aces" book.
Thanks in advance,greetings:

Martin
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2010, 05:29:33 PM »

HI Martin

AFAIK the pic you posted is the only pic of a Klimov P-40 that has been published in the west.  

The profile you show looks like it is captioned in Czech(or maybe Slovak) , so probably from a Czech publication, so maybe try find where it was published, as there might be a photo in the book or magazine the profile is from?    
 
I ran across a build of one,
http://www.dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm?p=4934&lng=E

By a member here, Michael_XIII, I PM him about the markings, asking about the scheme, 'red 20'


he said red 20 was a "Profile was printed in old russian avia magazine and migrated to any known source about this plane. I don't seen real photo with it - only a profile"

the build is here.
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_2971.html[
with all the is all info he found.

I have not seen this profile, I intend to do a Klimov P-40 at some point so a 2 seater would be an interesting build in this scheme.

cheers
Troy
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2010, 05:56:35 PM »

For your information, gentlemen, LF do both the single-seater and the two-seater Klimov-powered P-40's.  Here's the link to the two-seater version - http://www.lfmodels.com/curtiss-p40ea-double-seat-klimov-p-38.html.  Here's the link to the single-seater - http://www.lfmodels.com/curtiss-p40e-klimov-p-44.html.  I bought the single-seater version and it's actually quite nice.  It appears to have been based on the Hasegawa model, although done in resin.  I've built the kit, and painted it, but I've never gotten around to decalling it.  Once I do, I'll post the pictures on this site.  As far as the two-seater, some profiles have the colour scheme as being white and green bands, where at least one has the bands as white and blue!  I would think white and green would be more probable.

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Jason
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 06:08:12 PM »

Here's a profile of "Red 20" from Wings Palette, if you haven't already found one:
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/375/1/1/27

Another Klimov P-40, also from Wings Palette:
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/375/1/1/28
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/375/1/1/28_a1

John
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2010, 06:16:54 PM »

John, that third profile, for Red 26, is actually an Allison-powered P-40K (I once went through a P-40 phase before I descended into my terminal IL-2 madness, and actually did a little bit of research into the Soviet P-40's).  I've seen a photograph of it, which shows the starboard wing to possibly, even probably be in olive drab, as here, but the stabiliser as white.  Although not a Klimov-powered version, it's an interesting bird and I've partially built a Smer (ex-InTech) P-40K to do as this particular aircraft.

Regards,

Jason
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2010, 07:25:01 PM »

John, that third profile, for Red 26, is actually an Allison-powered P-40K (I once went through a P-40 phase before I descended into my terminal IL-2 madness, and actually did a little bit of research into the Soviet P-40's).  I've seen a photograph of it, which shows the starboard wing to possibly, even probably be in olive drab, as here, but the stabiliser as white.  Although not a Klimov-powered version, it's an interesting bird and I've partially built a Smer (ex-Intratech) P-40K to do as this particular aircraft.

Regards,

Jason

Oops - my bad! That's what I get for believing profiles to be correct!

John
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2010, 09:03:05 PM »

No problem, John.  I sometimes wonder if the profile artists have ever actually seen photographs of the aeroplane they're profiling.

Regards,

Jason
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marluc
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2010, 09:05:19 PM »

Gentlemaen,many thanks to you for your replies.
Troy,as far as I can remember,the two seater profile is from a MBI book and there?s no photo of a Klimov engined P-40.As a matter of fact,Michael_XIII?s build was my inspiration to make the conversion to a Klimov engined bird.Thanks for the links.
Jason,thanks for the links.It would be great to see your P-40.
John,thanks for the profiles.The one I posted here is from Wings Palette too.
Greetings.

Martin
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2010, 04:34:04 PM »

Hi,
Quote
I sometimes wonder if the profile artists have ever actually seen photographs of the aeroplane they're profiling.
I think no.
There are at least two famous profiles of MiG-3, reported on nearly every source, whose original photos are still unknown. I suspect that at least some of them are fruit of fantasy.

Massimo
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