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Title: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: Massimo Tessitori on January 07, 2020, 04:08:52 PM Hi,
there are new photos on those planes. https://zaika70.livejournal.com/75278.html (https://zaika70.livejournal.com/75278.html) I think that I have some revisions to do on my drawing of plane 12. Regards Massimo Title: Re: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: PG monster on January 08, 2020, 06:38:56 PM And also this one - http://ava.org.ru/shap/566/il2m-21-mt.jpg
the fin should be white, not grey. Title: Re: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: Massimo Tessitori on January 09, 2020, 06:27:53 AM Hi,
Are you sure? It looks only marginally lighter than the red star, even in full sun light. Aren't those photos taken in summer? Regards Massimo Title: Re: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: PG monster on January 21, 2020, 03:10:24 PM i mean the fin only - it's prooved divisional mark of 224 shad , summer 1943.
Title: Re: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: Massimo Tessitori on January 21, 2020, 07:30:50 PM But the light part is curved and partially extended on the elevators. It looks a camouflage, it is very strange for an unit marking.
Maybe it is a residual of a winter camouflage made with ordinary white paint? Can't you see the tail of other planes of the same unit? Regards Massimo Title: Re: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: PG monster on January 24, 2020, 04:32:24 AM Yes, the big curved light part is gray, but the fin is lesser and should be white.
The known photos : 566 shap of 224 shad - (http://ava.org.ru/shap/566/il2m-arrow-566-shap.jpg) 571 shap of 224 shad - (http://ava.org.ru/shap/571/il2-28.jpg) Title: Re: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: Massimo Tessitori on January 26, 2020, 03:39:55 PM Hi,
(http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/il-2/il2-camo/il-2m/21navy.jpg) I don't see difference of color between the fin and the blotches on the horizontal plans. If the fin is white, other parts of the tail have to. The plane of the photo below seems identical to the shots above, but the number doesn't seem 21 but 13 or something similar; this similarity is strange, they have even the same (supposed) eagle emblem on the nose. Other tails... I think to see one on the first shot and on the background of the photo below, they seem light too. So it seems that some (or all) the planes of the unit had white (or grey, or light blue) areas appearing as a winter camouflage. Regards Massimo Title: Re: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: PG monster on January 27, 2020, 07:37:13 AM BTW, why u know the # 21 is of 566 shap?
Title: Re: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: Massimo Tessitori on January 27, 2020, 08:13:29 PM I don't remember, perhaps Tora wrote this.
Title: Re: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: PG monster on January 28, 2020, 06:57:16 PM Hmm, Tora said he doesn't know....
Title: Re: Il-2s of 567 ShAP Post by: Massimo Tessitori on January 29, 2020, 06:37:40 AM I don't remember for this one. The most part of the units of Il-2s of my site were identified by him.
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