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 on: Today at 02:13:48 PM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by Saivila
Several I-16s were captured on Finland but only two fighters  + one UTI was repaired to flying contition.
This I-16 on photo is none of these.  Only German I-16 via Finland was "VP- 21" and this was type 27.


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 on: Today at 12:16:21 PM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by warhawk
A DB-3M loaned spring 1941 from Finland for evaluatuion in Germany was later put into a war-booty exhibition at Hamburg with similar red stars on white coloured square covering the German markings.

I knew I've seen those light squares somewhere else!
You are correct, and I remember that a photo of this DB-3 also exists:


from: ww2aircraft.net

Maybe the light patches were just used to temporarily cover Finnish insignia?
If both this DB-3 and the I-16 pictured above were flown from Finland over Axis territory, then making the VVS stars as visible as possible makes no sense.
It would be more prudent to use Axis markings in transit, and then just apply temporary Soviet insignia patches when they got to the final destination.

Regards,
Aleksandar

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 on: Today at 04:07:28 AM 
Started by Llemon - Last post by Llemon
No idea how legitimate this is. From here; http://bichura.ru/fotoalbomy/category/andronov_anatoliy_semenovich_1/


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 on: May 10, 2021, 11:37:35 PM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by AC26
Hi,

A DB-3M loaned spring 1941 from Finland for evaluatuion in Germany was later put into a war-booty exhibition at Hamburg with similar red stars on white coloured square covering the German markings. It still had the both German and Finnish serials visible.

Cheers,

AaCee

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 on: May 10, 2021, 06:14:01 AM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by Massimo Tessitori
Hi,
I don't think. The vague shape of the star seems the black contour of it visible through the light paint and is left visible by the smaller sheet on the fuselage that is presumably as the one on the tail. Probably the F covers the upper brace of it.
I wasn't able to see markings under the wings.

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 on: May 09, 2021, 10:09:02 PM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by warhawk
Maybe the original star was cut-out by an Axis souvenir hunter, and this is just a white patch (or paper, as You suggested) with a star drawn on it just to compensate it for exhibition purposes?

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 on: May 09, 2021, 06:40:27 PM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by Massimo Tessitori
Very interesting. The star on the tail seems drawn on a sheet of paper. Another sheet seems on the fuselage side. The contour of the old star on the fuselage can still be vaguely seen. Who knows about the dominant color... probably yellow, it covers in poor way and would justify that the star hasn't fully disappeared.

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 on: May 09, 2021, 03:11:36 PM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by warhawk

from: German e-bay

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 on: May 06, 2021, 06:46:25 AM 
Started by righidan - Last post by Massimo Tessitori
Hi Daniele,
good to know these details, now it's fully confirmed that the plane was real and not the result of a photo elaboration. It's still to understand why the other planes are so uniform and this one only is perfectly sharp as markings and camouflage. Probably it was freshly repainted.
Thank you for your work to provide accurate informations from Russian sources.

Massimo

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 on: May 05, 2021, 09:49:37 AM 
Started by righidan - Last post by righidan
Dear friends,
   At the shkolazhizni address above, memories of the veterans of the 567 ShABP, where in ShABP the B is for the honorary title Berlin, continue to be published.
   Recently appeared a biography of Bondarenko, the pilot of the Avenger, but about the famous photos, I have translated part of the memories of Boris Karpovich Swirs, former commander of the unit:
   I met the May Day holiday in the air, carrying out a special mission. The night before, Colonel V. I. Belousov, Hero of the Soviet Union, phoned me. And he said that in the morning the photographers of the "Krasnaya Zvezda" Captain M. Redkin and Senior Lieutenant Arkhipov would arrive to me, who were instructed to photograph episodes of the combat work of aviation and Berlin from the air. And now the seven "Ilov" rose into the air. The place of the gunner-radio operator in my plane was taken by Captain Redkin, and in the car with the inscription "The Avenger" - by Arkhipov. Both correspondents were well instructed on how to counter fighter attacks with heavy machine gun fire, and seem to have shown a keen interest in the matter. And after a safe return to their airfield, they even expressed regret that not a single Fokker had hit their gun. However, they had enough work with cameras. And, between us, I was very afraid that if the vultures really followed us, then the correspondents, forgetting about the machine guns, would try to take a series of spectacular shots.
   The attack aircraft went without cover, since at that time we no longer encountered any organized opposition from the fascist aviation. At the request of the correspondents, we walked over Berlin in a low-level flight, almost touching the smoking ruins with our wings, making slides over high obstacles, and descending again.
   At first glance, from the air, it seemed that the city was completely destroyed and stopped resistance. But soon it was already possible to discern frequent outbreaks, the origin of which is well understood by every military man.
   And the closer we flew to the center, the more of them became. From the thick clouds of smoke, Katyusha rockets burst out like fireworks and, drawing fiery trails above us, crashed into a large building. The iron ring was shrinking closer and closer around the Reichstag. And, although the enemy still fiercely resisted in some places, his fate was sealed. As if symbolizing the collapse of the Third Reich, thousands of white flags, from a handkerchief to a sheet, hung from the windows of the surviving and dilapidated houses - signs of surrender.

   Regards
Daniele

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