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Massimo Tessitori
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« on: March 29, 2014, 03:09:46 PM »

Hi,
I've uploaded a page collecting the images of Il-2s serviceable in the countries allied with SSSR.
http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/il-2/il2-camo/postwarforeign/postwarforeign.htm
I think that there is still some work to do, particularly on Yugoslav Ils.
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Massimo
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 04:53:33 PM »

Excellent work as usual Massimo,many of them would be interesting Il-2 models. Greetings.

Martin
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 05:11:52 PM »

Thank you Martin.
I hope that someone will made decals sheets for those subjects some day.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 08:15:56 PM »

I think that there is still some work to do, particularly on Yugoslav Ils.

A lot of work actually. Introductory text is full of errors - what was your source?

Profiles also need some corrections.  To begin with, you should correct national markings.
-  Those "white only" flags never existed in Yugoslav Air Force.
-  Blue rings on fuselage and wing roundels are way too narrow.

I hope that someone will made decals sheets for those subjects some day.

"Lift Here" has produced decals for Yugoslav Yaks; those can be used on Il-2s.





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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2014, 08:48:48 PM »

Looks good Massimo! Konstantin may be correct about the blue rings on the Yugoslavian examples, however.

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Jason
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 08:51:51 PM »

I think that there is still some work to do, particularly on Yugoslav Ils.

A lot of work actually. Introductory text is full of errors - what was your source?


Which introductory text - about the postwar Il-2's in general, or about the Yugoslavian Il-2's? What are the errors and what is your source?

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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 09:25:05 PM »

Text about Yugoslav Il-2s is full of errors.  If you need references for your book send me a PM.

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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2014, 06:33:40 AM »

I see. That introduction was written merging informations of the book of Gordon with the article on wikipedia. I'll check it with the article of Micevsky.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2014, 07:29:09 AM »

Article by Micevski is all you need; that is by far the most reliable info about Yugoslav Il-2s.
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2014, 08:14:36 AM »

Well, I'm still working on the page also thanks to the help of Aleksandar Ilic, brother of my old friend Aleksej of Gremlinmodels.
I've written a mail to Micevski too.
In the meantime, I've added new photos and drawings to that page.
Here is one:

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Massimo
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2014, 03:12:35 AM »

Thank you Martin.
I hope that someone will made decals sheets for those subjects some day.
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Massimo
Hi Massimo

I would think many decals can be sourced from the Special Hobby B-33 kit,


which would give you Polish, Czechoslovak and Bulgarian insignia at least.


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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2014, 04:04:58 AM »

That's a good idea Troy; I never thought of that!

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2014, 06:47:23 AM »

Hi Troy,
seems a good idea. One has to check the sizes of the marks.
I've found a big confusion on photos about Yugoslavian marks. There is a strong variability in size depending on the unit, and the outlines of the stars were not standardized; could be white, yellow or none at all, and of variable thickness.

Hi Jason,
I'll send the new and the updated drawings of Yugoslav planes as soon as they will be all ready. Perhaps I'll try a reconstruction of an early Bulgarian plane, but I have only one photo of a line with no visible codes.

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Massimo
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2014, 05:01:26 PM »

I've found a big confusion on photos about Yugoslavian marks. There is a strong variability in size depending on the unit, and the outlines of the stars were not standardized; could be white, yellow or none at all, and of variable thickness.

Some standards did exist: roundels were either 100cm or 70cm in diameter (maybe 50cm, can't remember...).  There was either no outline around the star or it was yellow outline.  White outline would be nonstandard.  Same on the rudder flag: no outline or yellow outline.

Blue ring on last two drawings is OK, you still have to make it wider on some of your earlier drawings.  In general, the blue and the red band on the flag should be the same width as the white band (check Yugoslav flag on wikipedia).



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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2014, 05:46:51 PM »

Hi Troy,
seems a good idea. One has to check the sizes of the marks.
I've found a big confusion on photos about Yugoslavian marks. There is a strong variability in size depending on the unit, and the outlines of the stars were not standardized; could be white, yellow or none at all, and of variable thickness.

Hi Jason,
I'll send the new and the updated drawings of Yugoslav planes as soon as they will be all ready. Perhaps I'll try a reconstruction of an early Bulgarian plane, but I have only one photo of a line with no visible codes.

Regards
Massimo

Sounds good, Massimo - I look forward to seeing them!

Regards,

Jason
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