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Psy06
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« Reply #720 on: March 04, 2021, 06:30:04 PM »

   I seem to understand that other SB interiors can be found or left unpainted, or covered with a transparent varnish, but I would like to be assured that I understood well.

First aircraft of the 1936 production (it has a nameplate) has an exterior paint, presumably silver. There are no signs of any paint inside, including primer.
The second aircraft (three-bladed propeller) has a light-gray exterior paint and inside it is completely painted with A14 steel-gray.
The third aircraft (two-bladed propeller) is also light-gray on the outside, but inside the skin is covered with transparent varnish. The frame and all internal elements are not painted (exept steel parts).
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #721 on: March 05, 2021, 10:32:20 PM »

Hi,
I've received a photo of a SB exhibit of some Finnish musum forom Tapani. Another image of the same piece was lying in my HD.




https://digitaltmuseum.se/011025401863/flygplansplat



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Massimo
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warhawk
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« Reply #722 on: March 15, 2021, 05:04:35 PM »

A tail of an SB maybe?:


from: German e-bay
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« Reply #723 on: March 16, 2021, 09:24:01 PM »

Ok, this one's definitely an SB.


from: German e-bay
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #724 on: March 16, 2021, 09:31:50 PM »

Hi,
good photo, thank you for sharing it.

The previous photo was of a SB too,
I tried to correct the colors of the image, but with poor success. I am not even sure if the light color was green or grey. The darker one doesn't seem black.
Probably the plane was grey with green blotches.
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #725 on: March 27, 2021, 06:49:11 AM »

Here is an amazing model (vacuform!) from the MiG-3 photos seen in recent time.
http://scalemodels.ru/articles/14852-aviastend-1-72-mig-3-obr--1940.html
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« Reply #726 on: March 29, 2021, 03:51:42 PM »

Here is an amazing model (vacuform!) from the MiG-3 photos seen in recent time.
http://scalemodels.ru/articles/14852-aviastend-1-72-mig-3-obr--1940.html

Wow - very impressive! Thanks for the link. I will probably never build a vacuform MiG-3, but I bookmarked it for future reference anyway.

John
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warhawk
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« Reply #727 on: May 09, 2021, 03:11:36 PM »


from: German e-bay
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #728 on: May 09, 2021, 06:40:27 PM »

Very interesting. The star on the tail seems drawn on a sheet of paper. Another sheet seems on the fuselage side. The contour of the old star on the fuselage can still be vaguely seen. Who knows about the dominant color... probably yellow, it covers in poor way and would justify that the star hasn't fully disappeared.
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warhawk
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« Reply #729 on: May 09, 2021, 10:09:02 PM »

Maybe the original star was cut-out by an Axis souvenir hunter, and this is just a white patch (or paper, as You suggested) with a star drawn on it just to compensate it for exhibition purposes?
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« Reply #730 on: May 10, 2021, 06:14:01 AM »

Hi,
I don't think. The vague shape of the star seems the black contour of it visible through the light paint and is left visible by the smaller sheet on the fuselage that is presumably as the one on the tail. Probably the F covers the upper brace of it.
I wasn't able to see markings under the wings.
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« Reply #731 on: May 10, 2021, 11:37:35 PM »

Hi,

A DB-3M loaned spring 1941 from Finland for evaluatuion in Germany was later put into a war-booty exhibition at Hamburg with similar red stars on white coloured square covering the German markings. It still had the both German and Finnish serials visible.

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AaCee
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warhawk
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« Reply #732 on: Today at 12:16:21 PM »

A DB-3M loaned spring 1941 from Finland for evaluatuion in Germany was later put into a war-booty exhibition at Hamburg with similar red stars on white coloured square covering the German markings.

I knew I've seen those light squares somewhere else!
You are correct, and I remember that a photo of this DB-3 also exists:


from: ww2aircraft.net

Maybe the light patches were just used to temporarily cover Finnish insignia?
If both this DB-3 and the I-16 pictured above were flown from Finland over Axis territory, then making the VVS stars as visible as possible makes no sense.
It would be more prudent to use Axis markings in transit, and then just apply temporary Soviet insignia patches when they got to the final destination.

Regards,
Aleksandar
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« Reply #733 on: Today at 02:13:48 PM »

Several I-16s were captured on Finland but only two fighters  + one UTI was repaired to flying contition.
This I-16 on photo is none of these.  Only German I-16 via Finland was "VP- 21" and this was type 27.

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