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Massimo Tessitori
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« on: February 24, 2017, 09:40:07 PM »

Hi all,
at the end,
I've uploaded the page on La-7s and I've linked it from the Pages index.
The direct link is here.
http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/la-7/la-7colors/la-7.html

Please, let me know your impressions.
There is still something to add, but I can make it in more relaxed way.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 07:40:18 AM »

Fantastic excellent work.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 03:45:32 PM »

Hi Massimo,
as already said excellent work.

Check, please, the page http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/la-7/la-7colors/27kozhedub/27kozhedub.htm about Kozhedub. Seems the link at the very bottom of the page (La-7 in Monino) does not work properly - it does not show picture only html line.

I also miss there this photo:

posted at http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?topic=2021.msg17272#msg17272
It is the latest interpretation of the Kozhedub's La-7 and it shows again two-tone camouflage. Plus note also blue outlined board number and red propeller spinner.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 06:51:42 PM »

Hi Misos,
you are right, the page isn't well refined. I'll make corrections as soon as possible. Besides I think to add drawings of the museum liveries, when I'll find time to.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2017, 11:18:34 AM »

Hi Massimo,
interesting comment at Modelforum.cz about your new La-7 page in Sultan Ahmet Chan section at http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/la-7/la-7colors/9giap/9giap.htm:

"Below, images of the emblem of Amet-Khan's P-39, that looks to be more complex of that of his La-7 and includes both a small plane and a ship as prays, and some details of the background that seem missing on the later plane."

However, that Cobra belonged to V.F. Sitotin:


Here is article about Sultan Ahmet Chan's Cobra http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?topic=1714.msg17542#msg17542

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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2017, 05:33:26 PM »

Hi Misos,
is the pilot of the photos Sirotin? So, has Amet-Khan  copied the emblem from his plane (and from the canned food)?
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Massimo
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2017, 10:15:00 PM »

Hi Massimo,
you have a misidentified pilot in 16th giap page too:



"The photo on the right shows Klubov close to the plane on which he died."

Pilot on that photo, whoever he is, isn't Klubov...

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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2017, 08:06:02 AM »

Hi KL,
thank you.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2017, 09:11:26 AM »

...is the pilot of the photos Sirotin? So, has Amet-Khan copied the emblem from his plane (and from the canned food)?...

Hi Massimo,
according to the http://www.airaces.narod.ru/all3/sirotin.htm that guy in the Cobra is really Sirotin. Compare the photos:
Sirotin:
and

and Sultan Amet Khan http://www.airaces.narod.ru/all1/amet_han.htm


IMHO Sultan Ahmet Khan did not copy the emblem from Sirotin's plane. They both copied picture of the eagle from the food can:

If I remember correctly I posted somewhere on the old forum link where was photo showing that eagle also on some other VVS planes but not Cobras. Seems that emblem was quite common.
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EDIT:
Here is that another plane with the same eagle - Po-2 - from http://forums.airforce.ru/do-1945/6160-orel-na-samolete-p-39-aircobra-vyacheslava-sirotina:


and the whole can:

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2017, 10:00:35 AM »

Thank you Misos.
I've modified the page.
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Massimo
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2017, 11:58:55 AM »

Hi,
I've these photos on my hard disk.




I'm researching for informations on them.
According on what has collected Ruckovsky, they should be from Alexey Maresyev's visit to some unit in winter 1947-1948.
Who can find further informations on them?
According to my ideas, they are 3-guns La-7, painted with medium grey upper surface, light blue lower surface, cowling and spinner of an unidentified glossy color, small white numbers on the tail. I suspect that they have some larger numbers on the fiselage in blue or yellow, but I am not sure.

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2017, 12:19:33 PM »

Well,he's Maresyev for sure.
http://airaces.narod.ru/all6/maresyev.htm
The pilot is famous, but the details of the La-7 are still unknown.
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Massimo
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2017, 12:35:04 PM »

Hi,
I've found this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARhFH_w0D98
Seems that there are not numbers on the fuselage.
The unit could be 63 giap where the pilot fought during the war.
The only important unknown factor is the color of the nose, I guess blue or orange.
Regards
Massimo
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2017, 08:20:54 AM »

La-5FN flown by A.P Maresev was discussed at scalemodels.ru forum several times (with no results whatsoever...). La-7 you are interested in appeared at  http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_14994_start_20.html

Post-war series of photos is available at https://russiainphoto.ru/search/?year_from=1860&year_to=1999&query=%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%B5%D0%B2

Photos are made by famous photo-correspondent Arkadiy Shaihet in 1946. It is 63 giap.

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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2017, 08:39:37 AM »

Thank you Konstantin.
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